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Orkaney (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@tubewatch59
I searched for many years for the meaning of life and an understanding of the world I live in. The way I did this was by reading, pondering and questioning people I met. As my understanding grew, I noticed that those belonging to faiths had a less than ideal attitude towards honesty, which to me raises concern.
It's up to others to draw their own conclusions about Jesus of Nasareth, I've drawn mine.
Do you hate Frøy? How about Ægir? How does one hate something nonexistent?
tubewatch59 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@Orkaney
I think you don't want to believe in the Christian God, and so you're saying that as long as there is some doubt about it, then that lets you off the hook. After all if God made His "daily appearance", daily "state of the heavens speech", and a "daily miracle", then I guess you'd worship reluctantly, and wonder about whether there's any other power in the universe able to take the "hated God" on. Right?
Proof of God's existence and power, won't remove the natural hatred of God.
tubewatch59 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@Orkaney
We wouldn't dispute anyone from history if we didn';t know about them. If they're written about though, then we're made aware of them, and can decide whether or not to believe (often without proof) that they existed or not. Usually, the more someone is written about, tends to lend credence to their existence.
I think you're against the existence of the man Jesus, because you're in opposition to Christianity. And you do have direct access to arguments for ID, and a Bible.
tubewatch59 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@Orkaney
I don't think that's a particularly reasonable position to take. I am sure that there are many historical people that most believe existed, but for which we have no proof either. Would you insist that they also didn't exist? I mean, how can you insist that someone didn't exist unless we have 100% proof of it? I'm not talking about Christ's claims to Deity, just the existence of a man called Christ. You're denial of his existence is as committed against, as those committed for.
Orkaney (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@tubewatch59
If there was a Jesus of Nasareth, Christians would have found proof by now. Evidence for his existence has been searched for since around 100 years after his supposed death. Why didn't any of the disciples keep memories if they loved him so much? I don't deny for the existence of people named Jesus in general, just the one in the bible.
If there was a deity wishing for us to interact with it, we'd all have direct access to sufficient knowledge for its existence. We don't.
tubewatch59 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@Orkaney
Why would you assume that Jesus Christ never lived? hat seems a little extreme! most atheists or unbelievers would allow that Christ may have lived, was just a man, and not God. But you state flat out he never lived. Why say that?
tnolte (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@IwillhonorGod "If you have not accepted God by the time you die, you are going to find your self in hell fire!"
And you're OK with this? Why would I want to worship something that does that to people? You sound like a brainwashed, egotistical douche bag. The different types of Christians show the different personalities of people. You are the selfish kind, that would want nothing more than for the people that don't believe what you believe to be tortured FOREVER. You're sick.
Orkaney (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@IwillhonorGod
Do your homework? Good enough point for you?
Orkaney (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@crocfme
So far, my experience with religion and its followers disappoint me, especially revolving honesty. I hope one day to see their texts placed where they rightfully belong, in the fiction section.
There was no Jesus of Nasareth or Christians would have found proof by now. Linking fictious characters with actual ones don't make them more real.
Good things are said in many texts throughout time but when most parts of one text is bad, I'd rather discard the whole text than quote it.
ExtantFrodo (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@IwillhonorGod "I don't know why you are making comments, let them make themselves out of nothing on there own. "
Like your god did right? Your "god did it" theory answers nothing with nothing but fiction. |